Will the tax code changes impact child support?

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Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby floodland » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:48 pm

California - With the new tax code limiting deductions which are used in the calculation of child support, how/will this affect child support or are federal deductions not used? My CS is highly affected by deductions (mortgage, property tax) which I would no longer have if the tax code changes pass.
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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:02 pm

The new changes will make it tougher on those with alimony orders, obviously.
Probably will be tougher on those just paying CS as well.

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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby Trevor » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:04 pm

And they don't give a damn about you or me. They just don't care about anyone but the donor class.

They see the door closing in the near future (to wit: New Jersey, Virginia, Alabama), after they sold their souls to president man-boy to enrich the lofty few, cut air and water pollution protections, open the floodgates for the banking elite, and throw some red meat to the base, while they still can.

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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby floodland » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:12 am

I really wonder if they think at all. Taxes go up but child support payments go down. What exactly does the GOP have against children?
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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:18 am

They don't hire lobbyist.
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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby quantum » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:30 am

I think it's a wash. If your tax obligation goes up, CS reduces and viceversa
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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:33 am

It's not a wash, it's a tax increase.
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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby quantum » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:45 pm

As far as CS is concerned, increase in tax obligation for both parties would keep the CS same. Ideally. No?
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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:09 pm

Only if both parties are in the same tax bracket, with the same deductions would they have the same tax obligation.

It was passed to collect more tax money at a higher rate by having the higher earner pay it.
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Re: Will the tax code changes impact child support?

Unread postby TJinCA » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:32 am

Fatheroffour wrote:Only if both parties are in the same tax bracket, with the same deductions would they have the same tax obligation.

It was passed to collect more tax money at a higher rate by having the higher earner pay it.


True for spousal support (for new orders after 12/31/17), although I would assume that spousal support agreements going forward would be negotiated with the understanding that it would now be taxable to the payer and not to the receiver--so the "appropriate" amount of spousal support as determined by a judge assessing the various factors would be lower than it would be if the receiver was paying the tax.

But it wouldn't work that way for child support which has always been taxable to whoever earns the income, not the party who receives it.
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