Our Technological Revolution

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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby a dad » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:02 pm

Changying Precision Technology Company in Dongguan city has set up an unmanned factory run almost entirely by robots. The factory has since seen fewer defects and a higher rate of production.
http://www.techrepublic.com/google-amp/ ... oid-google

Apple:
Foxconn cuts 60,000 factory jobs and replaces them with robots. Automation is accelerating in smartphone plants
http://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/20 ... oid-google

Tesla:
Robots replacing human factory workers at faster pace
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-r ... y,amp.html

Adidas:
This is the first Adidas shoe made almost entirely by robots
https://www.google.com/amp/www.recode.n ... oid-google

Adidas will open a new factory near Atlanta in 2017 largely operated by robots
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN10L1YY

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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby BartSimpson » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:33 pm

Speaking of robots, what's the deal in 2021? A certain type of robot will be available?

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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby hoosier_dad » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:49 pm

BartSimpson wrote:Speaking of robots, what's the deal in 2021? A certain type of robot will be available?


Seems to be the year picked by a Forrester Research report that got a lot of press:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/12/ai-will-eliminate-six-percent-of-jobs-in-five-years-says-report.html
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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:55 am

BartSimpson wrote:Speaking of robots, what's the deal in 2021? A certain type of robot will be available?

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Ahead of schedule, apparently.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/31/very- ... t-in-2017/
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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby Chasbo » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:50 am

There will still be jobs. Just different ones.

Right now we have 5% unemployment. Maybe the jobs aren't great. But when were all jobs great. In the past, people had horrendous back breaking jobs.

Programming, sales, creative, medical etc

I guess at some point everything will be robotized. At which point we will either join the seething underclass or move in with our robot sex lovers and live happily ever after.
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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:54 am

There will still be jobs. Just different ones.


One of the stories in the above links talked about an automated factory that went from 650 employees to 60, with the end goal of about 20.

I question whether new job creation can keep pace with old job obsolescence and the effect on the no-longer working class it will have.


Right now we have 5% unemployment.


I posit that a 5% unemployment rate in a society where a large segment of the population is rural , such as it was in the time of Ford and and to varying degrees lives off the land is a good bit different than one that is overwhelmingly urban.


Basically, I think attempting to conserve the social structure and culture of the past in the era of the future will be a painful process. For instance, the concept of Universal Basic Income may sound logical and reasonable to many in the context of this discussion. However, to many, it sounds like a liberal socialist plot to destroy America , create dependency and steal all the wealth created by the hard working rugged individualist that make this country great.
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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby lovingfatherof2 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:58 am

Who will design the robots? Who will build the robots? Who will program the robots? Who will maintenance the robots?

And all those jobs will have other jobs to make those jobs possible.
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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:01 am

Who will design the robots? Who will build the robots? Who will program the robots? Who will maintenance the robots?


Mostly robots.

Do you believe that automating a plant to eliminate 600 jobs will result in 600 jobs being created to support the infrastructure that the robots need to operate?
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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby gamingdad » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:59 pm

No one has said it's a 1 to 1 ratio. What's being said is a network of actual employees will be needed to design, build, and support the robots.
Now, despite what has been read about Google's AI creating it's own encryption, that does not mean that AI can design its software and hardware (yet).
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Re: Our Technological Revolution

Unread postby Fatheroffour » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:12 pm

What do you believe the ratio will be?
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